5. Filled with morbid insight into the workings of the world, it has the makings of a … too much into it. Mystic River starts out with three boys (Jimmy, Dave, and Sean) growing The What a depressing cast of characters, The fellow who was abducted as a child and latter killed by Penn. This is a moderated subreddit. Not much meat to the story; mostly the characters recalling their past. Having lived in Boston for 20 years I've mercifully never acquired the accent and managed to keep a little of my New York bark. Jimmy is a little cruel but Annabeth just fueled him more and pushed him over the edge with her speech.  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy. Just finished reading it less than 30 minutes ago and I was trying to find any discussions on here.   |-- Archives I kind of dont' really get the Jimmy Marcus-as-the-don of the Flats part of the epilogue. He seems to have used his actions with Dave Boyle (and Just Ray, I guess) to justify further criminal activity. It's one thing to pardon Jimmy for killing Dave--he had reasonable belief that he killed Katie--but to tell him "Sure, killing people is OK now," was bizarre at best. The book won an award and was made into a movie directed by Clint Eastwood in 2002. She’s looking out for herself and her daughters above … I had actually seen the movie when it came out ... fortunately for me, I didn't really remember much about the movie, so I was able to enjoy this reading throughly (although i did probably guess the killers much earlier than I should've). He really was great in this movie. Good Will Hunting doesn't count since Damon and Affleck didn't really have to learn the accent. One boy got in the car, two did not, and something terrible happened - something that ended their friendship and changed all three boys forever. Okay, but I had a hard time seeing why the author decided to take Jimmy in this direction. Dennis Lehane has been somewhat nice about the movies but makes very clear that the point of the book didn't translate to the movies very well. Mystic River (Book) : Lehane, Dennis : There are threads in our lives. Twenty-five years later, they are forced back into one another’s lives when one of their daughters is found murdered. the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC. I mean ... he still had two daughters to think about. Lehane masterfully weaves the many dark and complex threads that run through the novel. I thought the finger point at the end was to say "Hey you owe me one now......buddy.". Its name comes from a Wampanoag word meaning "big river." We wash them clean," so some viewers see something more "mystical" in the title and have likened it metaphorically to karma, that is, what-goes-around-comes-around. The main characters of Mystic River novel are John, Emma.  |  Donate, About DU ... month The biggest mistakes in the Harry Potter movies The Day After Tomorrow mistakes Hogan's Heroes mistakes Casino Royale ending The Book of Eli questions Super Troopers quotes … This book is the average mystery book on steroids. That justifies 2 things in the movie: 1. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the I love this book too! After 35% I began just began skimming through this book. I really enjoyed Shutter’s Island, so I figured Mystic River would be equally enjoyable. I think it was showing that the kind hearted, changed-leaf Jimmy had died with Dave. Mystic River is a first-rate thriller that does far more than merely solve a puzzle. published in multiple languages including English, consists of 416 pages and is available in Paperback format for offline reading. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Encompassing 76 square miles of watershed, the river flows from the Lower Mystic …   |-- Places There are, however, a few things that bothered me a little about the ending. One of the main ideas in ''Mystic River'' -- a theme somewhat buried in Dennis Lehane's novel that emerges into full view thanks to the economy of … Eventually, … opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent Annabeth's response to it was a bit odd, to me ... a bit sudden and cruel. Living here in Boston I always cringe when I hear actors doing the Boston accent thing - although Robbins pulled it off better than anyone I've ever heard. The resemblance to the English word mystic is a coincidence, which the colonists naturally followed. I thought Lehane did an excellent job developing the characters and setting the plot. page. This was taking character development beyond the point of interest to the waters of ho hum who cares. You pull one, and everything else gets affected. I wished there was more talk of this, but I guess this book was long enough as it was. Important Notices: By participating on this discussion Add a comment | 2 Answers Active Oldest Votes. Poor guy (although i do wonder if he wuld've ever succumbed to his urges if he had lived ... we'll never know.). For me, it was the suddeness of Jimm's reversal to his criminal ways.  |  Discussion The novel revolves around three boys who grow up as friends in Boston — Dave Boyle, Sean Devine, and Jimmy Marcus. The book then moves forward 25 years: Sean has become a homicide detective, Jimmy is an ex-convict who currently owns a convenience store, and Dave is a shell of a ma… I was bored to tears. He was my favorite character because he actually never did anything wrong that was his fault. I'm looking forward to reading the book this summer. "Mystic River", although a little dated now (2001), is a classic example of this. I must say, I really felt for Dave Boyle here, but never as much for Jimmy Marcus or Sean Devine, but that's probably my personal bias showing. But then a strange car pulled tip to their street. It is our intent and purpose to foster and encourage in-depth discussion about all things related to books, authors, genres, or publishing in a safe, supportive environment. The book has been awarded with Barry Award for Best Novel (2002), Macavity Award Nominee for Best Mystery Novel (2002) and many others. They said Ray Jr. did it with his hockey stick so I think it's implied that there was a lot of never-released anger built in the mute kid that he released when he beat Katie. Of course that's wrong, but he never acted on it except to defend a child. Twenty-five years later, they are forced to deal with one another again when one daughter is found dead. Dave escapes and returns home days later, emotionally shattered by his experience.   |-- The DU Lounge I'm still thinking that Ray was motivated by something bigger than boredom, but is smart enough not to say it. I was not as impressed with the flick as you were. But Brendan had talked about how his mute brother could never relieve his stress through talking. One of the Best Works of Dennis Lehane. So the mute never really got to speak up much I'm assuming. It involves three boyhood friends in an Irish neighborhood of Boston, who were forever marked when one of them was captured by a child molester; as adults, their lives have settled into uneasy routines that are interrupted by the latest tragedy. The Mystic River lies to the north of Boston and flows approximately parallel to the lower portions of the Charles River.   |-- General Discussion: Presidency He was betrayed by everyone, even his own wife. I thought that the Penn and Bacon had decided it was fate more or less, what happened to Robbins.   |-- Political Videos Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators. Find books like Mystic River from the world’s largest community of readers. then it starts to sound a little weird to someone who hears it all the time. A tense and unnerving psychological thriller, Mystic River is also an epic novel of love and loyalty, faith and family, in which people irrevocably marked by the past find themselves on a collision course with the darkest truths of their own hidden selves. It was a "mystery story" ending -- "Ah-hah! When they were children, Sean Devine, Jimmy Marcus, and Dave Boyle were friends. In Algonquan, missi-tuk means "large estuary," alluding to the tidal nature of the Mystic. the killers' motivations - (SPOILERS) I picked up on the fact that the kids had done it about halfway through the book, but I was surprised about their motivations at the end. But then when it went on a little longer I expected some sort of twist ending. in the Mystic River), Dave. here to send us a message. Three boys, Jimmy Markum, Sean Devine, and Dave Boyle, play hockey in a Boston street in 1975.   |-- Latest Breaking News The Dave character was doomed anyway, having killed the pedophile...that was unspoken in the ending.   |-- DU Groups eval(ez_write_tag([[250,250],'democraticunderground_com-medrectangle-1','ezslot_5',177,'0','0']));report this ad Clint Eastwood's "Mystic River" is a dark, ominous brooding about a crime in the present that is emotionally linked to a crime in the past. Dennis Lehane’s 2001 thriller/mystery novel, Mystic River, follows the lives of three childhood friends who suffer a traumatic event. 2. 2. . Good stuff. Jimmy tells Dave, "We bury our sins here (i.e. Forums  |  Journals |  Store When the story opens, Dave is abducted by child molesterswhile he, Sean, and Jimmy are horsing around on a neighborhood street. Any ideas? Press J to jump to the feed.   |-- Topic Forums Dennis Lehane’s novel, Mystic River, follows the lives of three friends who have a traumatic event. Got a message for Democratic Underground? I don't care whether a movie has a downbeat ending or not -- I just want it have a good ending, not a bad ending. Forum Categories This seemed to set up the scene at the end, where Annabeth seems to be making sure that Jimmy doesn’t let his guilt about having killed Dave Boyle get in the way of taking care of her and the girls. I'll definitely pick the author up again, not sure yet which bok I'll pick. Full Summary of Mystic River Overall Summary. He made it to 36, 25 years after he was molested, with only thinking about doing stuff to children. LLC. Mystic River is centred on a murder, but Lehane’s novel is much more than a mystery. Mystic River Dennis Lehane Bantam £9.99, pp401 Buy it at a discount at BOL. Ending / spoiler for Mystic River (2003), plus mistakes, quotes, trivia and more. The Mystic River is the name of a river in Boston. Key D2 promotion chase win for Mystic River FC to close the spring with a 3-1 victory over Lusitana ( Cand Den ). Big Forums In the summer of 1975 in a neighborhood in Boston, three kids, Dave Boyle and two of his friends, Jimmy Markum and Sean Devine, are playing on the sidewalk when Dave gets abducted by two men and endures several days of sexual abuse. And this was a bad ending. Bay State Soccer League (BSSL) June 30, 2019. His look, his accent - he really nailed it. One boy got into the car, two did not, and something terrible happened — something that ended their friendship and changed all three boys forever. There are, however, a few things that bothered me a little about the ending. ..about the ending and how weird it was and how it didn't make sense, so I was looking for it. Click I thought that the mute kid would've had a deeper motivation, since his borhter was going to "abandon" the family to go to Vegas with Katie ... which seems like a good reason for the kid to get mad at her. Sean the cop said 'now you gonna send $500/month to Dave's wife too?' It's so nice to read a chrime thriller with good character development and unique characters like Dave Boyle. Plus he said he didn't love his mom, only his brother. In Greenland he really shines as a result. © 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, Mystic River is a suspenseful tale, that will have you addicted and wanting to read all of Dennis Lehane’s books. This was the first book book I've read by this author and I was really impressed with the character development.   |-- Ask the Administrators Been too long since I've read it to really have any thoughts on the things that bothered you about it. If you're looking for help with a personal book recommendation, consult our Weekly Recommendation Thread, Suggested Reading page, or ask in r/suggestmeabook. I also felt so much for Dave. I would say that Mystic River came as close to capturing that Boston neighborhood feel and the accent as any movie I've seen. Read somewhere else on the web saying that - in the book it suggests that Celeste (Dave's wife) had something for Jimmy, and Annabeth knew it. I understand bacon's character is much more developed and and hsi wife relationship is frabricated for film. I thought the movie was ending right when Sean Penn confessed to Kevin Bacon what he had done. Mystic River's ending has always struck me as one of the most disappointing "deus ex machina" endings I've ever seen, so maybe this answer will help. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. My Forums, Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com According to their confession, they had done it for kicks. And Sean and Whitey talked about how Katie was beaten clearly with rage. When Val first rolled up and asked him to get in the car, my heart sank for Dave.   |-- Editorials & Other Articles Although, technically, Ray could've talked through an interpreter, but I guess he didnt want to. The Mystic River is a 7.0-mile-long river in Massachusetts, in the United States. Orginially, he had gone on the straight and narrow for Katie ... but now his two daughters aren't worth it anymore. I think the parade was just a vehicle to have all the characters gather in the old neighborhood and the Bacon finger gun really had no meaning other than to acknowledge Jimmy's presence. According to their confession, they had done it for kicks.   |-- General Discussion What's the Difference between Mystic River the Book and Mystic River the Movie? Bypassing the well established pattern of other mystery/thriller works, Lehane, instead of immediately grabbing the reader with his storyline, slowly but efficiently introduces us to the people and environment. I guess "this morning" would have helped, but the ending would still frustrate me as a viewer because it hinges on not just one but two very unlikely events: (1) a second murder having happened on same night as the first, and also (2) second murder undiscovered until just after Dave's death. When they were children, Sean Devine, Jimmy Marcus and Dave Boyle were friends. Great book but I kind of hated the epilgue .. not so much because of the actual character transformations but the suddeness of them. Annabeth knew Jimmy was out and probably might kill Dave, and yet she did not call Jimmy to stop it from happening - she wants Celeste to suffer. I hadn't read a good crime thriller/whodunit in a long while and I picked this one up. I saw Dave as an ultimate tragic character, always wanting to be liked and always fighting his inner demons ... but never quite winning either battle. I can't say that I've read any books with a character like Dave (but Sean Devine was more boilerplate for me, but not too bad.). Home But then a strange car pulled up their street. In Greenland, Butler keeps his Scottish accent and doesn't even attempt to try an American one, and his performance is all the better for it.It's basically a meme at this point but he has historically not been great at dropping the accent and trying to sound "American". Great ending to the spring half! So he was clearly not happy about Katie taking his brother away from him. Right as Rain George P Pelecanos Orion £9.99, pp298 Buy it at a discount at BOL the killers' motivations - (SPOILERS) I picked up on the fact that the kids had done it about halfway through the book, but I was surprised about their motivations at the end. (Although I think that perhaps Katie's death made Jimmy feel like being law-abiding wasn't worth it since she got killed anyway.) Just a grizzled dude who happens to have a Scottish accent trying to save his family. – Shiz Z. Dec 3 '12 at 22:36. I hated the ending and the "you're a king" speech by Jimmy's wife - I can't remember if it was in the book or not? I can't seem to get in to his most recent stuff - I started but gave up on Prayers for Rain and The Given Day. Re: Ray and O'Shea, yeah that was the same vibe I was getting. As for the motive for the kids, they say that O'shea did all the talking in the confessional. And the parade at the end said that life went on basically, that it was over. Mystic River. I think that the first seven-eighths of "Mystic River" is a mighty good movie -- but I also happen to think that the ending is a great disappointment. board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules Did you know there's also an excellent movie? Nope. 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